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displayfireworks1
01-26-2016, 07:54 PM
Area 51 Fireworks apparently does not like fireworks competition . I am posting this so you see some of the stuff that goes on from time to time.
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Meeting 01/25/2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWmLPfzxofg
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Pahrump Nevada
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displayfireworks1
01-26-2016, 08:20 PM
If I remember the history on this, the city of Pahrump Nevada designated an area in the Pahrump Fairgrounds where citizens can gather to legally shoot their fireworks. Of course this new approved shooting location is going to spawn new fireworks stores. The city apparently is not going to let that happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvpY7wgw87k
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Someone can double check me on this
It looks like Area 51 fireworks store is less than one mile from the Pahrump Fairgrounds.
displayfireworks1
01-26-2016, 11:27 PM
From Feb 2014.
http://pvtimes.com/news/fireworks-store-owners-stave-license-push.html
Fireworks store owners persuaded Nye County commissioners Tuesday to keep a limit of six licenses, in a new fireworks ordinance that was passed 3-2 over the objections of free market advocates Frank Carbone and Donna Cox.
Consequently, because the limit wasn’t lifted, the bill also keeps the annual license fee of $1,000 for fireworks store owners instead of reducing it to $500. But it enacts other changes District Attorney Brian Kunzi said store owners support, like a prohibition on tents, stands or temporary structures to sell fireworks and a definition of “safe and sane” fireworks that could be set off year round on a person’s own property.
Casey Steinhart, representing Area 51 Fireworks, said some store owners came into Pahrump years ago with a certain set of guidelines and rules how they were to be governed. During that time, they put quite a bit of money into those businesses, he said.
“Our only real problem with the changes is it changes the game in the middle of the game, it changes the whole rules and regulations,” Steinhart said. “This change on the limitation is obviously going to negatively impact us at a time when we’re all trying to work together and make it better.”
Tim McCoy, also with Area 51 Fireworks, said he has been in the local fireworks business since 1979. McCoy said he has a seasonal business. when another fireworks store opened a couple years ago, referring to Red Apple Fireworks, McCoy said he lost three full-time workers.
The ordinance was written to make it a crime to discharge fireworks in a manner that may endanger a person or structure, in case someone sets off a brush fire.
Dan Peart, representing Phantom Fireworks, said his company operates many stores in many states throughout the country. He said the Pahrump market was a new market, not a mature market.
“We are not doing the business here in Pahrump that we did five or six years ago before our economy started to slow down. With that being said, deregulating the number of businesses that are allowed in Pahrump, it’s not bringing new business in Pahrump it’s fragmenting the businesses that are here,” Peart said.
He suggested creating a fireworks advisory board, including store owners, to hash out the issues before they come to the county commission level.
Kunzi said the county should keep limits on fireworks licenses or eliminate sales of fireworks altogether.
“When this first went into place, this was the Wild West. Fireworks, there were no controls over it,” Kunzi said.
Commissioner Frank Carbone asked the fireworks store owners if they believe in free market capitalism.
But Steinhart responded, “you’re making it a free market after we put quite a bit of investment and I don’t think that’s fair.”
Steinhart said fireworks businesses pick areas based on factors like the number of licenses, the population base and what states are nearby.
Cox backed up Carbone, “I thoroughly believe in free enterprise. I’ve been in business, I understand both sides. Competition is good. It controls pricing. I don’t want to see a monopoly.”
Cox said the fireworks store owners have to change their businesses to keep competitive. She said it would cost a new fireworks store owner a fortune to compete anyway.
If I remember the history on this, the city of Pahrump Nevada designated an area in the Pahrump Fairgrounds where citizens can gather to legally shoot their fireworks. Of course this new approved shooting location is going to spawn new fireworks stores. The city apparently is not going to let that happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvpY7wgw87k
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Someone can double check me on this
It looks like Area 51 fireworks store is less than one mile from the Pahrump Fairgrounds.
It's is very close. Been there.
displayfireworks1
01-27-2016, 10:53 AM
I would love to know who the gentleman is trying to open a store in this area. The one in the first part of the video. I am going to speculate on this, in my opinion the real customer here is the California market. This location is very close to the Nevada California border. Let me see if I can research who the gentleman is trying to open the store. I am guessing he represents a particular brand of fireworks.
Now you see why fireworks people make so many political donations.
ilovecrackle
01-27-2016, 12:15 PM
[SIZE=4][B] Now you see why fireworks people make so many political donations.
Yeah, sadly, money buys pretty much anything.
displayfireworks1
01-29-2016, 12:10 AM
Told You I Would Get More Information on This. LOL
This is one of my unlisted videos playing only on pyrotalk. With this full video you will hear from other fireworks stores in the area and their rationale for not having another fireworks store in Pahrump Nevada.
The six Fireworks Stores in Pahrump Nevada.
1. Area 51
2. Red Apple Fireworks
3. Phantom Fireworks
4. Blackjack Fireworks
5. Outlaw Pyro
6. Alamo Fireworks
The gentleman trying to get the store permit is Johnny Chek. Company name is TYI Trading, not sure of the brand he is representing if any particular brand at all. It is interesting to hear from the other stores. I believe Red Apple was the last approved permit in Pahrump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqqQgtLLTI0
Note who is missing from the meeting…Phantom Fireworks…. They apparently do not appear to be concerned about competition moving into Pahrump. I have a theory on why that is……Anyone else care to speculate why that is?
ilovecrackle
01-29-2016, 12:58 PM
Note who is missing from the meeting…Phantom Fireworks…. They apparently do not appear to be concerned about competition moving into Pahrump. I have a theory on why that is……Anyone else care to speculate why that is? [/QUOTE]
My guess is they have the blockbuster video complex. "We are so big, nothing/no one can touch us". And we all know what eventually happened there. hahahahaha :cool: :p
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