APA 87-1 a/b/c standards revision news?

[tustinfarm]

I noticed that the APA is undertaking a revision of the standards for consumer/display/articles pyrotechnic, last updated in 2018...
https://www.americanpyro.com/apa-standard-87-1

Wondering if anyone on this forum has heard anything about the proposed revisions. I tried sending an email to the address posted, with no response, but then again I wouldn't expect any response to queries from regular non-industry folks like me. I also assume the current APA focus is heavily around the reducing the fireworks tariff, which I applaud.

These three standards make for fascinating reading if you like to dig deep into the weeds of what the legal limits are for the various classes of fireworks.

[KDirk]

This is the first I've heard of this review of the standards. Will need to give those a look. Hopefully it doesn't lead to further restrictions on consumer class products, which seems to be the ever present threat from various busy bodies. If they can't successfully work out an exemption on the tariffs, or they don't otherwise get resolved through the ongoing trade negotiation process, the consumer (and commerical) pyro industry is going to take a huge hit.

In a not necessarily related tidbit, I went to the NFA website a couple of days ago to see if they had any updated statement on their efforts, and was shocked to see they haven't really updated much of anything regarding regulatory and import issues since about 2022. I don't really know anything about the organization, but that their website press and blog areas were so outdated (still prominently featuring a post about COVID impact on manufacturing and shipping on the industry) made me wonder if they really are actively engaged in the present tariff situation. I'd consider that a high priority story, and yet there was nothing there about it.

[topshelfpyro]

87-1 C has been "approved" since 2018 but products are just now coming starting last year. This is what most people call "pro" or "AP". Hopefully idiots and greedy retailers don't ruin it for the rest of us.

[KDirk]

Indeed, and supply chain issues stemming from COVID contributed to that delay in the arrival of new product. Going forward, I see the ever present threat of "Karen's" wanting to spoil everyone's ability to enjoy themselves as a major threat to this hobby. Certainly irresponsible retailers who might sell AP product to anyone, irrespective of being able to demonstrate a knowledge of safety and proper use of the product is an issue. Clearly some people have a "hookup" that will get them things for a price, but that has generally been a "you have to know someone to begin with" sort of scenario, these things don't just fall off the back of a truck.

And it isn't just AP product that is cause for this concern. All it takes is for some kid to get a finger tip burned or otherwise mildly injured (to say nothing of worse outcomes) because someone was being stupid with something like sparklers or snakes, to bring out those who wish to wield the ban hammer on fireworks. Then your locale ends up like California, and you have access to essentially nothing legally, so far as fireworks goes. It will be nice if the APA/NFA can just hold the line on what we have now.

While I fully support safety and proficiency training of some kind for AP being formalized in some fashion as Dave has done with his program (which is not at all onerous, compared to some things one must be certified to touch), I also take the tack "save us from the good people" as they are always trying to further clamp down on anything they perceive as too dangerous to be allowed. And the big problem is that these sorts seek to ban something altogether, or out it under purview of some sort of government licensure scheme that makes it impractical as anything other than a professional, for profit pursuit. And that effectively shuts out hobbyists like many here on this forum.