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TitaniumsalTDI
03-13-2011, 01:21 PM
I've been using the veline system for a while and i'm looking to branch out to different formulas that are as simple as that one anyone have any they would like to share?

californiapyro
03-13-2011, 03:41 PM
well for blue a wonderful one is 75 ammonium perchlorate 15 hexamine 15 red gum. try it, youll love it

NightHawkInLight
03-13-2011, 05:24 PM
Here's another color system that I like much better than Veline. It was designed only in the past year or two by a fellow pyro out of Germany I believe:

http://www.pyroguide.com/index.php?title=Kcnkickthecat_color_system

displayfireworks1
03-13-2011, 05:36 PM
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Ralph
03-13-2011, 07:02 PM
well for blue a wonderful one is 75 ammonium perchlorate 15 hexamine 15 red gum. try it, youll love it


That is not at all blue you lack a copper colorant salt in that composition

NightHawkInLight
03-13-2011, 07:09 PM
Very true, it also adds up to 105 parts. You may want to recheck your source CP.

pyromaniac
03-13-2011, 07:48 PM
Try zinc granite stars. Easy to make and light. No special primes needed! KNO3 22%, zinc dust 62%, AF Charcoal 11%, sulfur 4%, dextrin 2% G.Weingart. The %'s adds up to 101 due to number rounding, original was in (parts). It works just fine!:cool:

SITHADMIRAL
03-13-2011, 09:20 PM
KCIO3 66
Copper Oxychloride 13
Lactose 14
PVC 7
Dextrin 4

SITHADMIRAL
03-13-2011, 09:23 PM
californiapyro what kind of prime did you use on the ammonium perchlorate stars? Most require a very hot prime.

NightHawkInLight
03-13-2011, 10:16 PM
KCIO3 66
Copper Oxychloride 13
Lactose 14
PVC 7
Dextrin 4

This is a person that is requesting simple star compositions, and you suggest a comp containing chlorate? That is either a severe lapse in judgment or an intentional motive to cause harm.

If someone is still enough of a beginner to need advice about basic compositions they are certainly not experienced enough to safely use chlorate. Even with a high level of experience, most never risk using chlorate comps outside of exhibition shells because for only a small drop in color purity the measure of safety added through using perchlorate is increased several times over.

whitepyro
03-14-2011, 12:14 AM
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SITHADMIRAL
03-14-2011, 01:40 AM
Hey Titanium are you a beginner? My friends and I have been using chlorate stars for 20 years without any incidents, They are simple formulas and don't require any prime. If you want real easy stars stick with bubble bee or flying fish fuse cut into inch lengths, that is what I would recommend for begginers.

californiapyro
03-14-2011, 11:34 PM
oh im sorry that was a typo, the red gum is supposed to be copper (II) oxide. and yeah its 105, it doesnt really matter what it adds up to. i use veline superprime, works every time ;)

whitepyro
03-15-2011, 01:19 AM
i cant get red gum in my country they just dont sell it so what is an alternative?
and when binding stars with nitrocellulose lacquer do you just spray the stars when your rolling them as you would if you were just using water?

arial-shellz-R-US
05-12-2011, 08:20 PM
hmmmm here is a red star comp that is dangerouse but needs no prime and has really good color. Do not try this unless you know what you are doing!

KCIO3- 38.7
red gum-6.5
airfloat charcoal-12.9
strontium nitrate-38.7
dextrin-3

I pump these stars and they look great

houseoffire72
08-06-2011, 10:32 PM
neon blue stars... potassium perchlorate 61.8 neon purplestars... potassium perchlorate 61.3
copper carbonate 12.9 strontnium carbonate 7.4
parlon 13.8 copper carbonate 5.0
red gum 9.5 parlon 12.4
dextrin 4.3 red gum 9.1
dextrin 4.8

makes a really nice bright blue makes a very nice purple star

houseoffire72
08-12-2011, 11:49 AM
LOL... sorry the star comps i posted didnt come out it two seperate colums as I typed them. I will repost them so the are readable LOL